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	<title>Comments on: Black Swan &#124; Natalie Portman vs Sarah Lane &#124; Who Did What? &#124; A Scene by Scene Review</title>
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		<title>By: Jerri Lynn Reeves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerri Lynn Reeves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 17:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate your post. Though, the point of this blog entry wasn&#039;t to imply Portman didn&#039;t deserve an Oscar. I did, however, write about the impact I thought this controversy had. Even in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jerrilynnreeves.com/2011/04/portman-vs-lane-in-black-swan-my-review/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this blog entry I did not say that Portman had no right to an Oscar&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate your post. Though, the point of this blog entry wasn&#8217;t to imply Portman didn&#8217;t deserve an Oscar. I did, however, write about the impact I thought this controversy had. Even in <a href="http://www.jerrilynnreeves.com/2011/04/portman-vs-lane-in-black-swan-my-review/" rel="nofollow">this blog entry I did not say that Portman had no right to an Oscar</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: CecilofRil</title>
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		<dc:creator>CecilofRil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2012 22:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I appreciate you putting to rest who was dancing when (and it shouldn&#039;t matter anyway), the Oscar wasn&#039;t &quot;Best Actress in a Dance Movie.&quot;  The Oscar was for &quot;Best Actress.&quot;  She won because of her performance as the lead actress in a movie about a dancer that descends slowly into paranoia and madness while she is trying to dance &quot;perfectly.&quot;  That is why she won.  Hell, look at Audrey Hepburn.  She got nominated for &quot;My Fair Lady&quot; and she didn&#039;t even have her VOICE in the songs! (the producers used a voice double at the last minute because they felt that Audrey&#039;s voice was weak on film)  But, Actors and Actresses get Oscar nods for OVERALL performances, not just &quot;who&#039;s legs/feet/body is this?&quot;  I agree that she should have given a shout out to ALL members of the crew, but you have to remember, ever since *(i can&#039;t think of who did it offhand)&#039;s* speech that ran for like 10 minutes, they limited the speeches to 2 minutes.  Not a lot of time to thank EVERYONE.  I&#039;m fairly certain (And no, I haven&#039;t watch it so I don&#039;t know unequivocally) that she thanked the ENTIRE crew of the movie (putting everyone under one umbrella).  Just because she didn&#039;t mention her TWO (yes, two, because Lane wasn&#039;t there the whole time filming) dance doubles doesn&#039;t mean she isn&#039;t grateful for their help on the movie.  All in all, I think that the blogger who posted up nasty comments about Natalie is to blame, because I think that many people would have watched this movie with total enjoyment (before the Oscars and in the theaters) knowing that it was just entertainment and not some &quot;hooplah&quot; designed to smear a fine actress.  Besides, you watch the movie more for the story (or at least, you should watch it for that reason) and let the dancing be like the special effects:  a tool to help tell the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I appreciate you putting to rest who was dancing when (and it shouldn&#8217;t matter anyway), the Oscar wasn&#8217;t &#8220;Best Actress in a Dance Movie.&#8221;  The Oscar was for &#8220;Best Actress.&#8221;  She won because of her performance as the lead actress in a movie about a dancer that descends slowly into paranoia and madness while she is trying to dance &#8220;perfectly.&#8221;  That is why she won.  Hell, look at Audrey Hepburn.  She got nominated for &#8220;My Fair Lady&#8221; and she didn&#8217;t even have her VOICE in the songs! (the producers used a voice double at the last minute because they felt that Audrey&#8217;s voice was weak on film)  But, Actors and Actresses get Oscar nods for OVERALL performances, not just &#8220;who&#8217;s legs/feet/body is this?&#8221;  I agree that she should have given a shout out to ALL members of the crew, but you have to remember, ever since *(i can&#8217;t think of who did it offhand)&#8217;s* speech that ran for like 10 minutes, they limited the speeches to 2 minutes.  Not a lot of time to thank EVERYONE.  I&#8217;m fairly certain (And no, I haven&#8217;t watch it so I don&#8217;t know unequivocally) that she thanked the ENTIRE crew of the movie (putting everyone under one umbrella).  Just because she didn&#8217;t mention her TWO (yes, two, because Lane wasn&#8217;t there the whole time filming) dance doubles doesn&#8217;t mean she isn&#8217;t grateful for their help on the movie.  All in all, I think that the blogger who posted up nasty comments about Natalie is to blame, because I think that many people would have watched this movie with total enjoyment (before the Oscars and in the theaters) knowing that it was just entertainment and not some &#8220;hooplah&#8221; designed to smear a fine actress.  Besides, you watch the movie more for the story (or at least, you should watch it for that reason) and let the dancing be like the special effects:  a tool to help tell the story.</p>
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		<title>By: ent0r</title>
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		<dc:creator>ent0r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 07:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Natalie Portman 73% (69% U, 12% F, 38% P) &#124; Sarah Lane 30%
Your numbers are weird since they would add up to 103%

Just so you know it, NP didn&#039;t keep the fact that a dance double was used secret.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Swan_dance_double_controversy
She even mentioned Sara lane on Letterman (not by name though but there weren&#039;t many other ATB dancers on the set)

Keep up the good work. Always nice to see a more educated  take (on ballet) on a situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Natalie Portman 73% (69% U, 12% F, 38% P) | Sarah Lane 30%<br />
Your numbers are weird since they would add up to 103%</p>
<p>Just so you know it, NP didn&#8217;t keep the fact that a dance double was used secret.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Swan_dance_double_controversy" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Swan_dance_double_controversy</a><br />
She even mentioned Sara lane on Letterman (not by name though but there weren&#8217;t many other ATB dancers on the set)</p>
<p>Keep up the good work. Always nice to see a more educated  take (on ballet) on a situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerri Lynn Reeves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerri Lynn Reeves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 23:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ent0r:  Thank you for the correction, I will make sure to update that.  I agree with you, most people do focus on the face; it is our biological nature.  I do remember seeing a post to another blog about the subject were the individual used the quote I included to suggest that Portman did the entire Prologue, not just the bourees at the end of what I am defining a &quot;scene.&quot;  

I personally found the zoomed in pointe work memorable because as the dancer sits down out of that, you see Portman&#039;s face for the first time, and she truly looks beautiful--not simply because I have studied ballet in the past.  

Good point you have made to remember:  not everyone is going to remember something &quot;the most&quot; all the same.  It is entirely based on experience and what we find most appealing.  

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ent0r:  Thank you for the correction, I will make sure to update that.  I agree with you, most people do focus on the face; it is our biological nature.  I do remember seeing a post to another blog about the subject were the individual used the quote I included to suggest that Portman did the entire Prologue, not just the bourees at the end of what I am defining a &#8220;scene.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I personally found the zoomed in pointe work memorable because as the dancer sits down out of that, you see Portman&#8217;s face for the first time, and she truly looks beautiful&#8211;not simply because I have studied ballet in the past.  </p>
<p>Good point you have made to remember:  not everyone is going to remember something &#8220;the most&#8221; all the same.  It is entirely based on experience and what we find most appealing.  </p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: ent0r</title>
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		<dc:creator>ent0r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 23:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Concerning your 4th point:
It&#039;s Aranofsky who says it, and If may suggest that you shouldn&#039;t believe that &quot;most people remember&quot; &quot;that beautiful footwork&quot;.

It&#039;s a movie. I would rather say that most of us pay attention to the face of the actor not the feet. Yes, even while dancing.

Most of us don&#039;t dance. and only a few grasp ballet enough to be actually able to scrutinise Natalies performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concerning your 4th point:<br />
It&#8217;s Aranofsky who says it, and If may suggest that you shouldn&#8217;t believe that &#8220;most people remember&#8221; &#8220;that beautiful footwork&#8221;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a movie. I would rather say that most of us pay attention to the face of the actor not the feet. Yes, even while dancing.</p>
<p>Most of us don&#8217;t dance. and only a few grasp ballet enough to be actually able to scrutinise Natalies performance.</p>
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